Welcome to the second chapter of La penúltima voluntad, our podcast series for advanced learners of Spanish. In this chapter, we hear the conversation between Marta and Carlos. Throughout this dialogue, in which Carols justifies his behaviour, we learn about their relationship and get to know Carlos’ character and personality. Take note of the idiomatic expression: tanto monta, monta tanto and listen out for several triggers of the subjunctive, such as ni que and pedir que.